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APrIGF Chat History for June 15th, 2010

 

Jun 15 2010, 2:44 AM
JohnnyCheung:
Jun 15 2010, 3:01 AM
JohnnyCheung: Setting the scene
Jun 15 2010, 3:49 AM
JohnnyCheung: security risks over everywhere
Jun 15 2010, 3:49 AM
JohnnyCheung: like China, Baidu and govt sites were infested
Jun 15 2010, 3:54 AM
JohnnyCheung: We, as mesh, to keep the internet viable
Jun 15 2010, 4:03 AM
JohnnyCheung: cyber security needs a healthy trust ecosystem
Jun 15 2010, 4:09 AM
JohnnyCheung: BOTNET is severe security threat aka Zombie Network
Jun 15 2010, 4:11 AM
JohnnyCheung: cloud computering still not useful if the data was not well protected
Jun 15 2010, 4:11 AM
JohnnyCheung: evolution is the way of IT development, instead of revolution
Jun 15 2010, 4:21 AM
JohnnyCheung: Transnational criminals is increasingly using internet to hampere the security
Jun 15 2010, 4:33 AM
JohnnyCheung: most botnets are from the asia region, and create great burden
Jun 15 2010, 4:55 AM
JohnnyCheung: bottom up process shall be maintained..
Jun 15 2010, 5:59 AM
gab (guest): Hello.
Jun 15 2010, 7:33 AM
JohnnyCheung: twitter always down
Jun 15 2010, 9:28 AM
JohnnyCheung: is there anybody here?
Jun 15 2010, 9:28 AM
JohnnyCheung: feel free to comment
Jun 15 2010, 9:30 AM
JohnnyCheung: @Rafik was online chatting
Jun 16 2010, 1:16 AM
Maverick (guest): Hi
Jun 16 2010, 1:36 AM
Edmon (guest): hi
Jun 16 2010, 1:57 AM
APPLE (guest): Hello~
Jun 16 2010, 3:52 AM
APPLE (guest): anybody here~?
Jun 16 2010, 5:23 AM
Edmon (guest): I am here, but seems like the conversation is on #aprigf
Jun 16 2010, 6:26 AM
Maverick (guest): Cool.
Jun 16 2010, 6:38 AM
Guest701 (guest): grassmud horse
Jun 16 2010, 9:17 AM
Guest698 (guest): Hi
Jun 16 2010, 9:17 AM
Guest698 (guest): Where can i access live transcript?
Jun 16 2010, 9:22 AM
Guest701 (guest): you could access it through the rigf site later
Jun 16 2010, 9:23 AM
Guest701 (guest): let me ask edmon, feel free to ask me at bin.laden.ccf1@gmail.com (Johnny)
Jun 16 2010, 9:49 AM
Kelvin (guest): We are in the process of cleaning up the transcript (formatting)
Jun 16 2010, 9:50 AM
Kelvin (guest): upon that, it will be posted to this page (http://webcast.rigf.asia)
Jun 17 2010, 1:16 AM
APrIGF (guest): 222
Jun 17 2010, 1:58 AM
APrIGF (guest): Hello~
Jun 17 2010, 2:19 AM
Kelvin (guest): Hello!
Jun 17 2010, 2:25 AM
Kelvin (guest): Marcus Kummer, Executive Coordinatorto the IGF Secretariat, UN giving an introduction and update to the global UN IGF initiative and its relevance to Hong Kong
Jun 17 2010, 2:53 AM
Kelvin (guest): John Galligan, from Microsoft now speaking on 'Trust and Cloud Computing: New Opportunities, New Responsibilities
Jun 17 2010, 5:06 AM
Guest969 (guest): hi
Jun 17 2010, 5:23 AM
APrIGF (guest): hello
Jun 17 2010, 5:25 AM
Kelvin (guest): any questions for the panelists, pleas feel free to ask here and we'll relay it to the moderator
Jun 17 2010, 5:29 AM
Kelvin (guest): Question for Chong Chan Yau:
Jun 17 2010, 5:29 AM
Kelvin (guest): Is there a website that designers can use to validate their website's accesibility?
Jun 17 2010, 5:39 AM
AllanDyer (guest): I'm finding that the audio quality is poor when using VLC media player, and that the chat does not work in Mozilla Firefox.
Jun 17 2010, 5:40 AM
Gab (guest): the chat box works fine under firefox here
Jun 17 2010, 5:40 AM
APrIGF (guest): We are trying to fix the problem, and it is recommended to use IE to open this site (but other sites,use other browses)
Jun 17 2010, 5:40 AM
APrIGF (guest): maybe you could restart your browser if you encounter some problems
Jun 17 2010, 5:41 AM
APrIGF (guest): for my browser, the connection is rather lagged in fact,,,
Jun 17 2010, 5:44 AM
AllanDyerFF (guest): Ah! I needed to allow scripts from chatroll.com to run.
Jun 17 2010, 5:45 AM
APrIGF (guest): yea, those technical issues is troublsome...
Jun 17 2010, 7:45 AM
Kelvin (guest): Transcripts have been implemented to this page live, so if you'd liketo see it, you can refresh the page
Jun 17 2010, 9:18 AM
Jeromyu: halo, anybody around?
Jun 17 2010, 9:40 AM
James_Chan (guest): Thanks for the remote robot...@@
Jun 17 2010, 9:49 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): looking forward to tomorrow's program
Jun 18 2010, 1:40 AM
APrIGF (guest): =]
Jun 18 2010, 1:40 AM
APrIGF (guest): Good morning
Jun 18 2010, 1:52 AM
Jeromyu: halo? nobody here?
Jun 18 2010, 2:03 AM
tsugiko: Hey, anybody here?
Jun 18 2010, 2:09 AM
APrIGF (guest): here
Jun 18 2010, 2:09 AM
bencrox (guest): yes here
Jun 18 2010, 2:09 AM
bencrox (guest): the textcast error rate is below 5%, superb!

 

APrIGF Chat History for June 16th, 2010

 

Jun 18 2010, 2:09 AM
Edmon (guest): Hi
Jun 18 2010, 2:09 AM
APrIGF (guest): As linking to internet need at least a computer and possible linkage, some far away ppl in China, or finanically poor ppl can get no access to reflect their views through internet
Jun 18 2010, 2:10 AM
bencrox (guest): RT = retreat, a real innovation~
Jun 18 2010, 2:11 AM
tsugiko: retreat? or retweet?
Jun 18 2010, 2:11 AM
bencrox (guest): Issac should be very proud of inventing ReTreat ...
Jun 18 2010, 2:12 AM
tsugiko: LOL
Jun 18 2010, 2:13 AM
Jeromyu: keep retweet, everybody, move your finger plz!
Jun 18 2010, 2:13 AM
bencrox (guest): I love the text cast~
Jun 18 2010, 2:13 AM
tsugiko: agree
Jun 18 2010, 2:13 AM
APrIGF (guest): it's superb.
Jun 18 2010, 2:13 AM
Jeromyu: she rocks!
Jun 18 2010, 2:15 AM
bencrox (guest): Python is just a piece of pie, yo~
Jun 18 2010, 2:20 AM
APrIGF (guest): censorship will die in 2013
Jun 18 2010, 2:21 AM
bencrox (guest): Doomsday come in 2012, Daya Bay will collapse anyway
Jun 18 2010, 2:21 AM
APrIGF (guest): lloyd michaux is the transcript agency
Jun 18 2010, 2:22 AM
Jeromyu: Doomsday 21 Dec 2012 LOL
Jun 18 2010, 2:22 AM
bencrox (guest): sexy -> secrecy ! Wow, just wow, i like it ~
Jun 18 2010, 2:22 AM
APrIGF (guest): we have a good translater~HAHA
Jun 18 2010, 2:24 AM
bencrox (guest): Tencent becomes a double of five cents
Jun 18 2010, 2:24 AM
APrIGF (guest): I like this comment
Jun 18 2010, 2:26 AM
APrIGF (guest): i disagree there are little recreation facility in china =[
Jun 18 2010, 2:27 AM
bencrox (guest): If so, HK has *none*
Jun 18 2010, 2:27 AM
APrIGF (guest): comparing to Hong Kong
Jun 18 2010, 2:27 AM
APrIGF (guest): ya...
Jun 18 2010, 2:27 AM
APrIGF (guest): High density development sucks...
Jun 18 2010, 2:28 AM
Jeromyu: S*EBG si .. LOL
Jun 18 2010, 2:28 AM
bencrox (guest): Sherman lacks an insight or the straightness
Jun 18 2010, 2:28 AM
APrIGF (guest): anyway, just mere a report
Jun 18 2010, 2:30 AM
APrIGF (guest): No wonder why weibo is popular because local competitors encourage or invite pop star and celebrities to use it, just like how twiiter operate
Jun 18 2010, 2:31 AM
APrIGF (guest): STPORPB
Jun 18 2010, 2:32 AM
bencrox (guest): mii wants to transfrom telnet world to http world
Jun 18 2010, 2:32 AM
bencrox (guest): sensorship is here
Jun 18 2010, 2:32 AM
bencrox (guest): and censorship was there
Jun 18 2010, 2:32 AM
APrIGF (guest): lol, good joke
Jun 18 2010, 2:33 AM
bencrox (guest): Sherman does not know what had happened in MITbbs in 1999
Jun 18 2010, 2:34 AM
APrIGF (guest): well, please told us more here
Jun 18 2010, 2:35 AM
bencrox (guest): Mii organize, infiltrate and strike the sysops group in the States to take control of one of the most vibrant BBS among american chinese
Jun 18 2010, 2:35 AM
bencrox (guest): It was a cross border war at the very beginning
Jun 18 2010, 2:36 AM
APrIGF (guest): Hmm, a trade war...
Jun 18 2010, 2:37 AM
bencrox (guest): Always with some commercial value. But at large, political reasons.
Jun 18 2010, 2:38 AM
APrIGF (guest): sad but true
Jun 18 2010, 2:38 AM
APrIGF (guest): There is still cold war
Jun 18 2010, 2:39 AM
bencrox (guest): I am off now. Please prompt the content to twitter if you can
Jun 18 2010, 2:39 AM
APrIGF (guest): ok...we will
Jun 18 2010, 2:47 AM
Jeromyu: some Mandarin eventually
Jun 18 2010, 2:48 AM
APrIGF (guest): It shows diversity
Jun 18 2010, 2:53 AM
APrIGF (guest): Welcome to leave any comments or making joke =]
Jun 18 2010, 2:56 AM
James_Chan (guest): Good Morning, jokes like our CE??
Jun 18 2010, 2:58 AM
APrIGF (guest): sure u can
Jun 18 2010, 3:00 AM
APrIGF (guest): i am worried more and more ppl reply on internet as a channel, and lessen their ability to deal with daliy life and see the fact of social campaign
Jun 18 2010, 3:02 AM
James_Chan (guest): There are many protocols on The Net...Web 2.0 lures more and more hearts because more features and user-friendly...
Jun 18 2010, 3:02 AM
APrIGF (guest): yes, and it could e a good bottom up measure
Jun 18 2010, 3:02 AM
James_Chan (guest): Cheers
Jun 18 2010, 3:03 AM
APrIGF (guest): tell more people to enter this at twitter as well, james, cheers
Jun 18 2010, 3:03 AM
James_Chan (guest): Sure..
Jun 18 2010, 3:03 AM
APrIGF (guest): =]
Jun 18 2010, 3:06 AM
APrIGF (guest): Twitter could act as disaster relief measure
Jun 18 2010, 3:12 AM
APrIGF (guest): social media is more aggrement, and type ACTA to find more.
Jun 18 2010, 3:14 AM
James_Chan (guest): ACTA? Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement??
Jun 18 2010, 3:16 AM
APrIGF (guest): most likely
Jun 18 2010, 3:16 AM
James_Chan (guest): Did Africa countries sign?
Jun 18 2010, 3:16 AM
APrIGF (guest): we can check it later...
Jun 18 2010, 3:17 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): Checking right now
Jun 18 2010, 3:17 AM
APrIGF (guest): seems no aficia...as it is not in the lists the speacker mention.
Jun 18 2010, 3:22 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): the ACTA is joined by voluntary basis, which many countries have not yet involved
Jun 18 2010, 3:22 AM
James_Chan (guest): Like China...
Jun 18 2010, 3:24 AM
APrIGF (guest): you could not participate into the negotiation as end-users... sed...
Jun 18 2010, 3:24 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): definitely
Jun 18 2010, 3:25 AM
James_Chan (guest): More difficult to shoot troubles about patents and trademark issues in different countries.....
Jun 18 2010, 3:25 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): if the government don't join, end-users are not protected at all
Jun 18 2010, 3:27 AM
James_Chan (guest): Whisper: Hong Kong has not been a member of WIPO yet.....
Jun 18 2010, 3:27 AM
APrIGF (guest): hey, James, it is your field, feel free to ask questions here and I will represent your all views.
Jun 18 2010, 3:28 AM
James_Chan (guest): but Hong Kong did the best to match WIPO...
Jun 18 2010, 3:29 AM
James_Chan (guest): hearts are more important....
Jun 18 2010, 3:31 AM
APrIGF (guest): yes, good laws without hearts become evil
Jun 18 2010, 3:31 AM
James_Chan (guest): absolutely...
Jun 18 2010, 3:38 AM
maVerRicK (guest): This forum is kinda interesting.
Jun 18 2010, 3:39 AM
APrIGF (guest): yea, especially on the copy-right focus.
Jun 18 2010, 3:40 AM
James_Chan (guest): Yes, interesting...like your name...Maverick in Top Gun....
Jun 18 2010, 3:43 AM
Gab (guest): Hello everyone.
Jun 18 2010, 3:43 AM
APrIGF (guest): hello
Jun 18 2010, 3:47 AM
Jeromyu: hello, good to see more energy here LOL
Jun 18 2010, 3:47 AM
Jeromyu: we have some chi here
Jun 18 2010, 3:48 AM
James_Chan (guest): As U like it : )
Jun 18 2010, 3:49 AM
APrIGF (guest): Expecting the youths =_
Jun 18 2010, 3:50 AM
James_Chan (guest): I love the next generation VVVV much...
Jun 18 2010, 3:52 AM
APrIGF (guest): why?
Jun 18 2010, 3:56 AM
James_Chan (guest): Why not?
Jun 18 2010, 3:57 AM
APrIGF (guest):
Jun 18 2010, 3:57 AM
APrIGF (guest): Enjoy it, everybody
Jun 18 2010, 3:57 AM
James_Chan (guest): Cheers with Mojito
Jun 18 2010, 3:58 AM
APrIGF (guest): Mojito , Cheers *clink*
Jun 18 2010, 3:59 AM
James_Chan (guest): I should bring my talking dog, Swiss ( Sai Kung )Mountain Dog to the Camp last week....
Jun 18 2010, 4:00 AM
ClemenceCam (guest):
Jun 18 2010, 4:01 AM
APrIGF (guest): Proud of you all!!!
Jun 18 2010, 4:01 AM
James_Chan (guest): Cheers with Mojito again
Jun 18 2010, 4:03 AM
APrIGF (guest): why not others?
Jun 18 2010, 4:04 AM
James_Chan (guest): Tonight is the night :0
Jun 18 2010, 4:04 AM
Jeromyu: Cantonese time!
Jun 18 2010, 4:05 AM
James_Chan (guest): 乾杯莫吉托

 

Hong Kong IGF Chat History for June 17th, 2010

 

Jun 18 2010, 4:05 AM
James_Chan (guest): Yes, pipl.com sells all our information...
Jun 18 2010, 4:06 AM
APrIGF (guest): 草泥馬乾杯莫吉托~
Jun 18 2010, 4:08 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): moreover, the privacy terms are in English only, although the language settings were changed
Jun 18 2010, 4:08 AM
James_Chan (guest): 2.爽草泥馬..涼莫吉托
Jun 18 2010, 4:08 AM
APrIGF (guest): Clemence, that just another digital divide
Jun 18 2010, 4:08 AM
maVerRicK (guest): 5,700 words are not considered much. Like just a few pages from book.
Jun 18 2010, 4:09 AM
APrIGF (guest): come on, modern users don't readthat
Jun 18 2010, 4:10 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): that's where the problem is...it's too long
Jun 18 2010, 4:10 AM
maVerRicK (guest): Do modern users read books?
Jun 18 2010, 4:11 AM
APrIGF (guest): they just watch youtubes -_-
Jun 18 2010, 4:11 AM
James_Chan (guest): @CC That's why my friends don't know what's it because they may choose Chinese Language...so bad...@@
Jun 18 2010, 4:11 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): e-books, maybe
Jun 18 2010, 4:11 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): but agree with youtubes
Jun 18 2010, 4:13 AM
maVerRicK (guest): agree, more visual elements are required. Maybe more interactive stuffs?
Jun 18 2010, 4:13 AM
APrIGF (guest): Interactive could be a solution
Jun 18 2010, 4:14 AM
maVerRicK (guest): or actually some acivities like forums to bring all those core thinkings out fromt the 5,700+ words
Jun 18 2010, 4:14 AM
James_Chan (guest): Let's show the power of Interactive Multimedia Web 2.0
Jun 18 2010, 4:14 AM
maVerRicK (guest): or some kind of video
Jun 18 2010, 4:14 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): sounds interesting
Jun 18 2010, 4:15 AM
maVerRicK (guest): like how Civic Party selling referendum before.
Jun 18 2010, 4:15 AM
maVerRicK (guest): We need more creative ideas
Jun 18 2010, 4:15 AM
APrIGF (guest): yea, politic propaganda could be cool
Jun 18 2010, 4:15 AM
APrIGF (guest): we need to be mad, Make a difference
Jun 18 2010, 4:15 AM
Jeromyu: anglais encour......
Jun 18 2010, 4:17 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): we do need change on educating privacy
Jun 18 2010, 4:18 AM
Guest788 (guest): Reaching the number of target is the only thing HKfyg & the Be Netwise Internet Education Campaign really care #APrIGF
Jun 18 2010, 4:18 AM
maVerRicK (guest): Charles mentioned this just yesterday
Jun 18 2010, 4:22 AM
James_Chan (guest): Spokeo.com sells our information as well....
Jun 18 2010, 4:23 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): cyber-bullying in HK getting more now, it's really an issue need to be solved immediately
Jun 18 2010, 4:25 AM
APrIGF (guest): seeing the bully, but slient, it is the collaboRator...
Jun 18 2010, 4:26 AM
Guest788 (guest): to reach the Campaign target number, all the related NGO using different method to get people personal date, It's so funny that KEN is now talk about the privacy
Jun 18 2010, 4:26 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): but that's hard to find out who has watched the video or informationn on internet...
Jun 18 2010, 4:26 AM
APrIGF (guest): Well, sort of
Jun 18 2010, 4:26 AM
APrIGF (guest): but, we need to discourage the outrageous comment against the victim
Jun 18 2010, 4:27 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): definitely
Jun 18 2010, 4:34 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): just something come-up of censorship...
Jun 18 2010, 4:37 AM
APrIGF (guest): yea..
Jun 18 2010, 4:37 AM
APrIGF (guest): Jerry always thought to be very "great"
Jun 18 2010, 4:45 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): seems that censorship was focused only on children...
Jun 18 2010, 4:46 AM
James_Chan (guest): The children should accompany their parents to surf because they might know more...
Jun 18 2010, 4:46 AM
APrIGF (guest): Well, as the speaker is from Kid's dream,
Jun 18 2010, 4:47 AM
APrIGF (guest): but somehow, i appreciate their thinking are simple and fresh.
Jun 18 2010, 4:52 AM
APrIGF (guest): actually, there are some ideas that can be amended, but all in all, i deeply appreciated
Jun 18 2010, 4:52 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): agree!
Jun 18 2010, 4:53 AM
James_Chan (guest): Cheers with Mojito for those over 18
Jun 18 2010, 4:54 AM
Jeromyu: Q&A section soon
Jun 18 2010, 4:55 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): still got the digital divide?
Jun 18 2010, 4:58 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): finally digital divide!
Jun 18 2010, 5:01 AM
APrIGF (guest):
Jun 18 2010, 5:03 AM
Jeromyu: digital divide... but one of they said "Internet divide" in Cantonese ...
Jun 18 2010, 5:04 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): suppose to be 數碼鴻溝?
Jun 18 2010, 5:05 AM
Jeromyu: yup
Jun 18 2010, 5:05 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): got it
Jun 18 2010, 5:06 AM
Jeromyu: sosad
Jun 18 2010, 5:06 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): for what?
Jun 18 2010, 5:06 AM
APrIGF (guest): YES, that's 數碼鴻溝
Jun 18 2010, 5:07 AM
APrIGF (guest): cheers...almost lunch time,haha
Jun 18 2010, 5:07 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): looking forward to the Q&A!
Jun 18 2010, 5:08 AM
APrIGF (guest): I am sure it is a hot debate,
Jun 18 2010, 5:08 AM
APrIGF (guest): welcome offline guys to ask
Jun 18 2010, 5:09 AM
Jeromyu: yes yes interaction indeed
Jun 18 2010, 5:10 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): let's heat-up
Jun 18 2010, 5:11 AM
APrIGF (guest): be prepared, guys
Jun 18 2010, 5:11 AM
APrIGF (guest): and ladies
Jun 18 2010, 5:12 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): what you guys want to ask, may i help you ?\
Jun 18 2010, 5:13 AM
Jeromyu: Ken reply first.... be patient....
Jun 18 2010, 5:18 AM
Jeromyu: 10 mins for Q&A
Jun 18 2010, 5:21 AM
Gab (guest): off topic Donald Tsang is ready for his speech.
Jun 18 2010, 5:21 AM
Jeromyu: what?
Jun 18 2010, 5:21 AM
Jeromyu: what speech?
Jun 18 2010, 5:22 AM
APrIGF (guest): any linK?
Jun 18 2010, 5:23 AM
Jeromyu: an olive branch to pigeon party?
Jun 18 2010, 5:24 AM
APrIGF (guest): .......
Jun 18 2010, 5:25 AM
APrIGF (guest): [back topic] how's this guy?
Jun 18 2010, 5:25 AM
APrIGF (guest): i mean stephen
Jun 18 2010, 5:25 AM
APrIGF (guest): ha, 2 stephens, i mean the young one
Jun 18 2010, 5:27 AM
APrIGF (guest): IF it is good to punish students by reading their fb, as to let them know the importance of privacy.Then logically, everyone have to get into jail first in order to obey the law
Jun 18 2010, 5:27 AM
APrIGF (guest): haha
Jun 18 2010, 5:28 AM
James_Chan (guest): Build a bigger prison firstly....
Jun 18 2010, 5:30 AM
APrIGF (guest): here comes the Japanese boy
Jun 18 2010, 5:33 AM
Jeromyu: lock every kids, reminds me Lessig's presentation LOL
Jun 18 2010, 5:34 AM
APrIGF (guest): hehe...
Jun 18 2010, 5:36 AM
James_Chan (guest): Are U guys hungrey?
Jun 18 2010, 5:36 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): absolutely
Jun 18 2010, 5:36 AM
APrIGF (guest): so do me
Jun 18 2010, 5:37 AM
APrIGF (guest): nearlt finish la, lunch lunch lunch (the one beside me said so)
Jun 18 2010, 5:37 AM
James_Chan (guest): I am proud of U all
Jun 18 2010, 5:39 AM
James_Chan (guest): To narrow down the digital and physical devide...enjoy your lunch first...
Jun 18 2010, 5:40 AM
APrIGF (guest): well, another 5 minutes .. maybe
Jun 18 2010, 5:40 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): we need energy before thinking of the solutions
Jun 18 2010, 5:41 AM
APrIGF (guest): if i am hungry, i would bite the internet and no more "internet/ digital gap"
Jun 18 2010, 5:41 AM
APrIGF (guest): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cocktails <-- you might enjoy this, james
Jun 18 2010, 5:42 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): will this satisfy your needs ?
Jun 18 2010, 5:43 AM
Jeromyu: lunch eventually
Jun 18 2010, 5:43 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): lunch now, enjoy ;P
Jun 18 2010, 5:43 AM
APrIGF (guest):
Jun 18 2010, 5:43 AM
James_Chan (guest): 乾杯莫吉托...@@...
Jun 18 2010, 6:26 AM
APrIGF (guest): lloydmichaux.com.
Jun 18 2010, 6:30 AM
APrIGF (guest): Wake up
afternoon section begins
Jun 18 2010, 6:32 AM
APrIGF (guest): very satisfied after lunch delicious love cyberport

 

Hong Kong IGF Chat History for June 18th, 2010

 

Jun 18 2010, 6:41 AM
APrIGF (guest): IPv4 : 8bit.8bit.8bit.8bit (each 8bit) is hieacial
Jun 18 2010, 6:48 AM
Jeromyu: ..........
Jun 18 2010, 6:52 AM
APrIGF (guest): -_-
Jun 18 2010, 6:52 AM
APrIGF (guest): any comments on such technical stuff?
Jun 18 2010, 6:53 AM
APrIGF (guest): got bored?
Jun 18 2010, 6:53 AM
APrIGF (guest): if you want to know more, go for wiki
Jun 18 2010, 6:54 AM
APrIGF (guest): CYBERSQUATTING
Jun 18 2010, 6:55 AM
APrIGF (guest): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybersquatting
Jun 18 2010, 6:55 AM
APrIGF (guest): Typo squatting, or other related squatting
Jun 18 2010, 6:58 AM
Guest577 (guest): Hi,everyone
Jun 18 2010, 6:59 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): hi
Jun 18 2010, 6:59 AM
Jeromyu: Hihi
Jun 18 2010, 6:59 AM
APrIGF (guest): hello
Jun 18 2010, 6:59 AM
APrIGF (guest): you all back
Jun 18 2010, 6:59 AM
Stephen (guest): Clemenc
Jun 18 2010, 7:00 AM
Stephen (guest): Clemence,where are you@@
Jun 18 2010, 7:01 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): I am at secretariat room...
Jun 18 2010, 7:02 AM
Stephen (guest): We both at the right side wor
Jun 18 2010, 7:02 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): that's not me, right?
Jun 18 2010, 7:02 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): seems that my name is used by others
Jun 18 2010, 7:03 AM
Stephen (guest): So, clemence ng maybe
Jun 18 2010, 7:03 AM
APrIGF (guest): hehe
Jun 18 2010, 7:03 AM
APrIGF (guest): here is the example of cybersquatting
Jun 18 2010, 7:03 AM
APrIGF (guest): the culprit is me
Jun 18 2010, 7:03 AM
Stephen (guest): Haha
Jun 18 2010, 7:04 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): i'm a real life example of this right now, great
Jun 18 2010, 7:04 AM
APrIGF (guest): that's could be clear
Jun 18 2010, 7:04 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): easier to understand, ha
Jun 18 2010, 7:04 AM
Stephen (guest): So,what can you
Jun 18 2010, 7:04 AM
Stephen (guest): Do lol
Jun 18 2010, 7:05 AM
Stephen (guest): Johnny here?
Jun 18 2010, 7:05 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): that's identify others, sounds important, though
Jun 18 2010, 7:06 AM
Stephen (guest): When we can start the meeting ar fxxx
Jun 18 2010, 7:07 AM
Stephen (guest): Can't wait to know who can join NM next year
Jun 18 2010, 7:09 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): just try our best and everything will be fine
Jun 18 2010, 7:10 AM
APrIGF (guest): Hope all of ypou can be the best
Jun 18 2010, 7:12 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): actually i'm interested in the chinese domain names mentioned in previous days
Jun 18 2010, 7:14 AM
Jeromyu: Chinese Domain Name now
Jun 18 2010, 7:15 AM
APrIGF (guest): LIKE http://xn--fsqu00a.xn--g6w251d/%E9%A6%96%E9%A0%81
Jun 18 2010, 7:15 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): yup, the idea of having 網站.亞洲 instead of website.asia interested me a lot
Jun 18 2010, 7:16 AM
APrIGF (guest): seems attractive
Jun 18 2010, 7:19 AM
Yuuji: Although not much people can access into internet compare with the population of China, however looks like many of them will use online shops
Jun 18 2010, 7:21 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): definitely
Jun 18 2010, 7:22 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): not only online shops, but other websites...it's good to have both english and native domain names which can direct to the same websites
Jun 18 2010, 7:23 AM
Yuuji: Sure... like 土豆.con instead of tudou or 淘寶.com
Jun 18 2010, 7:23 AM
Yuuji: or 淘寶.com is very good enough
Jun 18 2010, 7:23 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): exactly
Jun 18 2010, 7:25 AM
JohnnyCheung: yawn... very tired..
Jun 18 2010, 7:25 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): there are different languages for one website, why not domain names?
Jun 18 2010, 7:26 AM
APrIGF (guest): therefore IDN will be set up for such change
Jun 18 2010, 7:26 AM
Yuuji: but maybe it's hard to motivate those website owner
Jun 18 2010, 7:26 AM
Yuuji: as you have to register numbers of domain name for this
Jun 18 2010, 7:26 AM
APrIGF (guest): AND that domain name especially useful for those arabic
Jun 18 2010, 7:26 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): agree
Jun 18 2010, 7:28 AM
ClemenceCam (guest): IDN sounds great
Jun 18 2010, 7:29 AM
APrIGF (guest): follow #APrIGF on twitter
Jun 18 2010, 7:29 AM
APrIGF (guest): Delporable is that, all browser but IE support IDN
Jun 18 2010, 7:29 AM
Yuuji: So it's time for me to have photo taking
Jun 18 2010, 7:30 AM
Yuuji: back later LOL
Jun 18 2010, 7:31 AM
APrIGF (guest): Adverse possession is discussed
Jun 18 2010, 7:44 AM
APrIGF (guest): discusing about domin name dispute resolution.
Jun 18 2010, 7:46 AM
APrIGF (guest): Make life simple =] i like these words
Jun 18 2010, 7:52 AM
APrIGF (guest): Useful information is provided now
Jun 18 2010, 8:15 AM
APrIGF (guest): sounds interesting www.xxxx.moron/.pig/.chicken....? hehhehehhee
Jun 18 2010, 8:15 AM
James_Chan (guest): I like "Simple Mind"
Jun 18 2010, 8:32 AM
APrIGF (guest): Thanks for all speakers and guests here. Always benefited when hearing more from diff. people and professionals.
Jun 18 2010, 8:43 AM
James_Chan (guest): Thanks all there

APrIGF Roundtable Agenda

The programme for the roundtable event emulates the IGF structure of discussing the Internet governance issues around Access, Openness, Security, Critical Internet Resources and Diversity. Moderators have been nominated to organize panelists to help lead the roundtable sessions. In addition, we will be discussing the future shape of the IGF and close with a deeper look at the emerging issue of the role of civil society.

In the spirit of the IGF, the meeting will be convened as a roundtable meeting with participation from the civil society, private sector and public sector. Outputs from the event will be used as inputs for the coming global IGF to be held in September 14-17 in Vilnius, Lithuania. The APrIGF will therefore help shape the future of the IGF. How should it be constituted? What should the IGF look like if it is to be held again? What should be on the agenda?

Tuesday, June 15
0900-0930 Registration
0930-1045 Welcome Remarks:
  • Markus Kummer, Executive Coordinator of the Internet Governance Forum (IGF) Secretariat
  • Jeremy Godfrey, Government Chief Information Officer, HKSAR OGCIO
  • Hasanul Haq Inu, Honorable Member of Parliament and Chairman of Standing Committee, Ministry of Post and Telecomm, Govt. of the Peolple's Republic of Bangladesh
  • Paul Wilson, Director General, Asia Pacific Network Information Centre (APNIC)
  • Zhang Jian, General Manager, Asia Pacific Top Level Domain Association (APTLD)
  • Edmon Chung, Chief Executive Officer, DotAsia Organisation
  • Stephen Lau, Chairman, APrIGF Local Host Organising Committee
Introduction: Setting the Scene This session paints the backdrop for our two-day roundtable discussion. On the panel are many who have followed the meeting of the World Summit on the Information Society and the Working Group on Internet Governance, the report of which led to establishment of the IGF. What were the hopes and aspirations of the various alphabetic entities? How far have they come? Or not come? These and similar related questions will be explored in the session.
  • Prof. Ang Peng-Hwa Singapore Internet Research Centre, Nanyang Technological University, Singapore APrIGF Regional Organizing Committee
1045-1100 Coffee Break
1100-1230 Security: Cyber-Security and Network Confidence The dangers of cyber threats continue to evolve with risks further compounding as increasingly connected societies transcend geographical and physical borders, where stakeholders communicate in realtime. Utilising the same networks and links that bind us globally, cyber threats and attacks are able to strike from virtually anywhere in the world, potentially causing catastrophic social and economic harm to countries that are oceans away. Neither governments, nor private sector entities can contain these cyber threats singlehandedly and domestically. This session will bring together the experience from experts in the region and to explore how the Asia Pacific region may be able to converge and share information and resources to escalate the cybersecurity and network confidence.
  • Moderator: Dato’ Mohamed Sharil Tarmizi Chief Operating Officer of the Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission (MCMC)
  • Ram Mohan, Chief Technology Officer, Afilias
  • Christine Runnegar, Internet Society
  • Representative from Kaspersky System
  • Matthew Chan, Business Manager, Trend Micro
  • Thomas Parenty, Managing Director, Parenty Consulting Limited
  • Michael Mudd, Regional Representative, Asia - Pacific, Open Computing
1230-1400 Lunch
1400-1530 Openness: Challenges and Criticalness of an Open Internet Culture The extensively open culture of the Internet provides an important platform for innovation, creativity and exchange of ideas. While the openness is a critical aspect of the Internet, it presents a challenge to safety and security of different dimensions. This includes challenges to parenting and child protection. This session will bring together a diverse set of stakeholders to explore the challenges and promises of the openness of the Internet.
  • Moderator: Robert Guerra, Project Director, Internet Freedom, Freedom House
  • Oliver “Blogie” Robillo, Founder, Mindanao Bloggers Community
  • Chiranuch Premchaiporn, Managing Editor, Prachathai
  • Ken Ngai, Project Manager, Be Netwise Internet Education Campaign
  • Leslie Chu from Microsoft: Country Manager, Online Service Group (HK/TW)
1530-1600 Coffee Break
1600-1730 Access: The Digital Divide in Asia Internet has dramatically transformed people’s lives in the last decade, bringing new opportunities in education, employment and socio-economic development. At the same time, however, the gap between those who have access and those who have not is widening rapidly. This digital divide constitutes a major problem to modern society especially in the area of social development and poverty alleviation. This session explores studies, projects and initiatives from around Asia that aims to extend access and address the digital divide in Asia.
  • Moderator: Edmon Chung, Chief Executive Officer, DotAsia Organisation
  • Christine Runnegar, Internet Society (ISOC)
  • Tony Wong, Head of Digital Inclusion Division, Office of the Government Chief Information Officer
  • John Fung, Director of Information Technology Resource Center (ITRC), HKCSS
  • Dato' Mohamed Sharil Tarmizi, Chief Operating Officer, MCMC
  • Representative from IDA, Singapore
  • Dr. Michael Gurstein, Executive Director, Centre for Community Informatics Research, Development and Training
  • Rafik Dammak
  • Pindar Wong, Chairman VeriFi (Hong Kong) Limited
  • Paul T.C.Fung, Vice Chairman - Policy Committee, iProA; President, International Federation of Creativity and Technology (IFOCAT)
1830-2200 APrIGF Roundtable Dinner (Sponsored by IMPACT)
Wednesday, June 16
0900-0930 Registration
0930-1100 Managing Critical Internet Resources The term ‘critical Internet resources’ is described by the report of the United Nations Working Group on Internet Governance as including the administration of the domain name system (DNS) and Internet protocol (IP) addresses, administration of the root server system, technical standards, peering and interconnection, and telecommunications infrastructure, including innovative and convergent technologies. This session convenes experts in the region to explore the policy imperatives to move the Internet towards the IPv6 address space in face of the eventual exhaustion of IPv4 addresses, and the role of ccTLDs (Country Code Top Level Domains) and their relationships to ICANN and the Internet.
  • Moderator: Paul Wilson, Director General, Asia Pacific Network Information Centre (APNIC)
  • Keith Davidson, Chairman, Asia Pacific Top Level Domain Association (APTLD)
  • Valens Riyadi, Head of National Internet Resources,Indonesia ISP Association (APJII)
  • Shariya Haniz Zulkifli, Director, .my Domain Registry
  • Chris Disspain, Chief Executive Officer, Chief Executive Officer, au Domain Administration
  • Hirofumi Hotta, Director, (JPRS)
1100-1115 Coffee Break
1115-1245 Diversity: Challenges and Opportunities for Internationalized Domain Names Having IDN TLDs is a part of multilingualism on the Internet, which is essential for Asian Internet users. Introduction of IDN TLDs has been over-a-decade effort started in AP region. Filnally, ICANN decided to launch IDN ccTLDs last November and some IDN ccTLDs have been already in place. Introduction of IDN gTLDs are under intensive discussion as part of new gTLDs. In this session, “How IDN TLDs will change our life” will be discussed.
  • “The Origin of IDN” TAN Tin Wee, Associate Director, Centre for Internet Research, NUS
  • “Making IDN a reality” XUE Hong, Chinese Domain Name Users Alliance (CDNUA)
  • Case Reports on IDN ccTLDs
    • Malaysia (Shariya Haniz ZULKIFLI)
    • China (MO Rungang)
    • India (Tulika PANDEY)
    • DotAsia (Edmon CHUNG)
  • Panel Discussion interacting with the floor
    • Panelists : above 6 speakers
    • Moderator: Izumi Aizu
1245-1415 Lunch
1415-1545 Emerging Issues: Role of Civil Society in Internet Governance One of the major recommendations of the WGIG Report was that civil society should have a key role in Internet governance, a role that places civil society as a stakeholder on par with government and the business sector. That’s the theory. In practice, civil society does not seem to be a major stakeholder and these days its significance seems to be paling. Because civil society groups played an important role in the innovative use of the Internet, the concern over the loss is not just a matter of representation on the Internet but also the larger concern over whether future innovations may be stymied. This session aims to explore the question of the role of civil society in Internet governance.
  • Moderator: Charles Mok, Chairman, Internet Society Hong Kong
  • Christine Loh, Chief Executive Officer, Civic Exchange
  • Sean Ang, Executive Director, Southeast Asian Centre for e-Media
  • Isaac Mao, Fellow, Berkman Center, Harvard University
  • John Fung, Director of Information Technology Resource Center (ITRC) Hong Kong Council of Social Services (HKCSS)
  • Cheryl Langdon-Orr, Chair, At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) of ICANN
  • Parminder Jeet Singh, Executive Director, IT for Change (ITFC)
  • Yap Swee Seng, Executive Director, Asian Forum for Huma Rights and Development
1545-1600 Coffee Break
1600-1730 The Way Forward: The Next Model of the IGF This session aims to bring together the various threads of discussions to give inputs to shaping the next reiteration of the IGF. What should be the shape of the IGF going forward? What should be its format? Its mandate? How should we continue the collaboration in Asia?
  • Moderator: Cheryl Langdon-Orr, Chair At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) of ICANN
  • Prof. Ang Peng-Hwa Singapore Internet Research Centre, Nanyang Technological University, Singapore
  • Stephen Lau, Chairman, APrIGF Local Host Organising Committee Hong Kong Representative of Multistakeholders; Advisory Group (MAG), IGF
  • Peter Dengate Thrush, Chairman, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)
  • Wolfgang Kleinwächter, Chairman, ICANN Nominating Committee Professor for International Communication Policy and Regulation at the Department for Media and Information Sciences of the Unversity of Aarhus
  • Chris Disspain, Chief Executive Officer, au Domain Administration Chairman, Country Code Names Supporting Organisation (ccNSO) of ICANN

Hong Kong IGF Agenda
Venue: Function Rooms 1-3, Level 3, Cyberport 3, 100 Cyberport Road, Hong Kong [ map ]Dates: June 17 (Thu) – June 18 (Fri), 2010
Theme: “Building Vibrant Communities, Realizing Internet Possibilities”
Thursday, June 17
0945-1000 Opening CeremonyWelcoming Speech Stephen Lau, Chairman of Organizing CommitteeOpening RemarksStephen Mak, Acting Government Chief Information Officer of the HKSAR OGCIO Sponsor Recognition Group Photos with Representatives of Organizing Committee
1000-1030 Keynote Opening SessionSession Chairman – Stephen Lau, Chairman of Organizing Committee“IGF and Internet Governance” Markus Kummer, Executive Coordinator to the IGF Secretariat, UNAn introduction and update to the global UN IGF initiative and its relevance to Hong Kong
1030-1110 “Trust and Cloud Computing: New Opportunities, New Responsibilities” John Galligan, Director, Internet Policy, Microsoft Asia PacificCloud Computing offers enhanced choice, flexibility, operational efficiency, and cost savings for governments, businesses, and individual consumers in Asia. To take full advantage of these benefits, reliable assurances regarding the privacy and security of online data must be provided. In addition, a number of regulatory, jurisdictional, and public policy issues remain to be solved in order for online Computing to thrive. This presentation will discuss how these key defining characteristics affect the level of user confidence and how a public-private partnership is necessary to engender trust, responsibility and accountability for data governance, privacy and online safety in this new computing paradigm
1110-1130 Coffee Break
1130-1330 Access and DiversityAccess would be to enable disadvantaged groups to gain access to ICT, in particular those who are disabled with respect to the ‘infrastructure, or access divide’ dimension of digital divide.Diversity would be to enable the contribution to a diversity of content and application on the internet, and therefore increase the relevance of the internet to the disadvantaged population, and how the disadvantaged groups themselves such as the ethnic minority, the elderly and the disabled could be engaged in the generation of such content/applications. In other words it would be about how to address the ‘content and application divide’ dimension of the digital divide.
  • Moderator – John Fung, Director, Information Technology Resource centre, HKCSS
  • “Education for the Deprived” Mr. Anthony Wong, President, China and South East Asia, OLPC
  • “International perspective – Telecentre developments”Mr. Michael Gurstein, Executive Director, Centre for Community Informatics Research, Development and Training
  • “Generating multi-cultural content for disadvantaged groups” Mr. Clarence Tsang, Deputy Director, Christian Action
  • “Web Accessibility Update” Mr. Chong Chan Yau, President, Hong Kong Blind Union
1330-1445 Lunch
1445-1645 Security, Openness and PrivacyThe issues of security, openness and privacy online are interwoven, where it is crucial to strike a balance among them. This session will examine at practical and policy-making levels how to balance access to knowledge, the freedom of expression, and the intellectual property rights in the virtual world, from the perspectives of scholars, practitioners as well legislators. The discussion will cover practical aspects of the coordination needed to secure the network (e.g. to fight spam) and their relationship to issues pertaining to openness (e.g. ensuring the open architecture of the Internet). Issues to be discussed will include:
  • Cybersecurity and cybercrime
  • Identity theft, identity fraud, and information leakage.
  • Child protection online
  • Enabling framework for freedom
  • Regulatory models for privacy
  • Privacy protection as a business advantage
  • Ensuring the open architecture of the Internet;
Speakers/Panelists: Moderators :
  • Mr. Stephen Lau, Chairman of Organizing Committee
  • Mr. Ken Ngai, Project Manager, BeNetwise Internet Education Campaign
Guest Speakers:
  • "Cybercrime and Intellectual Protection in Hong Kong" Dr. Michael Jackson, Associate Professor in Faculty of Law, The University Of Hong Kong
  • "Developments in the online threat landscape and methods of protecting individuals and organization against them" Nigel Mendonca, Regional director, partnerships for Symantec Hosted Services in Asia.
Panellist:
  • Mrs. Priscilla Lui, Director, Against Child Abuse in Hong Kong,
  • Mr. Charles Mok, Chairman, Internet Society Hong Kong
  • Anthony Fung, Senior Regional Digital Crimes Unit Manager (Asia Pacific), Microsoft Corp
1645-1730 Reporting from Regional roundtable & IGF issues specific for Asia PacificModerator: Mr. Edmon Chung, Coordinator of rIGF roundtable
1830-2130 Hong Kong IGF Conference Gala Dinner (Sponsored by HKIRC) Venue: La Dynastie Restaurant at Shop 102, The Arcade, Cyberport, HK
Friday, June 18
0900-0930 Registration
0930-1130 Emerging IssuesThe Internet is an ever-changing media, itself constantly evolving and always challenged our social norms and the world’s economic system. As the world’s Internet population approaches 2 billion, the advent of Web 2.0 technology has confronted public and private organizations with the need to adopt social media and cloud computing technologies for improved civic engagement using the new media. This panel session will examine all issues related to these and other emerging issues, with an Asian perspective.Moderator:Mr. Charles Mok, Chairman, Internet Society Hong Kong
  • “Bridging Local and Global Content” Oiwan Lam, Northeast Asia editor of Global Voices Online and editor of inmediahk.net
  • “The open dialog model between censors and users” Isaac Mao, Fellow, Berkman Center, Harvard University (Confirmed)
  • “China Internet: big opportunity, even bigger challenge.” Sherman So, Former technology journalist of South China Morning Post and co-author of “Red Wired”
  • “Open the Social Media Silos: Internet Governance’s New Challenges” Eric Lee(李士傑), Senior project manager in CITI, Research Center for IT Innovation, Academia Sinica / TELDAP, Taiwan E-Learning & Digital Archives Program
  • Prof. Peter Yu, Director, Intellectual Property Law Center, Drake University Law School, USA
1130-1300 Youth and Internet GovernanceTogether with a Panel, presentations will be made by youth representatives of the Youth Internet Governance Forum (held the preceding weekend) on their discussions on Digital Divide, Online Privacy and Security, Freedom of Speech, Cyberactivism, Copyright, Cyberlaw and Social NetworksModerator: Mr. Ken Chan, Chief Officer, Children & Youth Service, HKCSS
1300-1415 Coffee Break
1415-1615 Managing Critical Internet ResourcesInternet domain names and IP addresses are your “identity” on the Internet. In the past, Internet users thought that these are technical details which they should not be concerned with. A number of recent developments, including the coming additions of new top-level domains, intellectual property rights, non-Latin domain names, and the imminent exhaustion of IPv4 addresses, have however led to increased attention in the user community. This panel session intends to introduce the issues and stimulate exchange of views and concerns related to them.
  • “Domain Names and IP Addresses – what do they mean to you?” Mr. Jonathan Shea – CEO, HKIRC
  • “Cybersquatting and domain scams” Mr. Stephen Lai – Melbourne IT
  • “Protect your rights on domain names – dispute resolution andarbitration” Mr. Christopher To – Council member, HKIAC
  • “New Top Level Domains – opportunities or gimmick?” Mr. Edmon Chung – CEO, DotAsia
  • “Chinese Domain Name – do you need it?” Ms. Jian Zhang – APTLD
  • “IP addresses are running out – Urgency for IPv6″ Mr. Paul Wilson – Director General, APNIC